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1 hour ago, BreakDown2014 said:

The guitar work on Rocket Queen sounds really really good. A proper mixing really makes a huge difference, sounds like a different band. Great job Team Brazil!

Slash managed to ruin all the solos by playing a fast and feelingless even on YCBM's solo. The band is a horror show. The least embarrassing song was Attitude.

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47 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

The mix was better, but still poor! Positive is tou could clearly hear Axl. The drum mix was poor, almost zero of the overheads, you could barely hear the ride, crashes and hats it was basically all kick and snare and they were fairly drowned out in places... eq, compression it's really not difficult to make a half decent powerful drum sound. The mix like ths last one, does not capture the power of the band live.

I agree. It still has that blanket over the speakers sound, like they rolled off a bunch of high end.

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wow! Didn't know this board was full of Simon Cowell. 

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It is not possible that nobody in the band is realizing that everything is shit, from the rhythm of the songs, the voice of Axl, Slash playing without feeling destroying the solos for wanting to play fast. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TRIAL OF SLASH PLAYING FAST he was never good at it! I want to see old Slash playing with feeling.

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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I get what he's trying to do with the chorus of Slither: a harmony with Duff singing lower and him singing higher. As an idea it's not bad at all, I think it would sound fantastic with his classic high-pitched raspy voice. But he doesn't have this voice anymore, so...

Yeah, it sounds like that's what they were going for, but it's as you said...

Maybe they should try to work out a harmony with Axl and Melissa (Axl singing lower, Melissa higher). I like her singing and wouldn't mind hearing her more prominently during shows, even though the idea probably makes some purists recoil in horror :lol:

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Great improvement! Really better video and audio quality 🙌🏻
 

I think they should have chosen another show than this one

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39 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I agree. It still has that blanket over the speakers sound, like they rolled off a bunch of high end.

Yeah, when they have Caram on payroll why not use him? the guy would have this performance 100% better in about 20 minutes. I have no explanation for not using him to at least achieve a balanced... not looking for the quality of a official dvd release, but I would like something in the middle, between this and a good HQ mix. Not on the cards, but maybe if enough people bend Fernando's ear he might pull the finger and the cheque book out.

 

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In a perfect word, they would take the audio tapes for Download, give it a proper mix so that all instruments would be clear, bring Axl's voice up and release this puppy. Would be a good capture of a festival gig. Yes, there are missteps, but heck, it's a live concert doesn't have to be perfect. Just give it a proper mix. 

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Im surprised TB are not using the 2016 shows as at least axl sounded sort of consistant.

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1 hour ago, Jakey Styley said:

Axl sounds decent here, and this is the best you’re gonna get now on tough songs like YCBM and SCOM. Not much rasp, but he’s getting through the words and hitting the notes. If you’re expecting different it’s time to adjust your expectations unfortunately.

 

edit: Slither does suck though

Adjust your expectations is fan speak for It's not good, but just like it any way!!

We all know he can do better on SCOM... he sounds terrible, I love his voice when he chooses to use it but If this was the first time hearing these songs there's not a chance in hell I'd be a fan of this band. I'm not adjusting my expectations, I expect the musicians I pay exceptionally high ticket prices to sing to a minimum standard, and in my book that SCOM vocal is about a 4/10. I would find it hard to believe he would stand over this and say "I really like how I sound on this".

I enjoyed parts, and I'm glad some of ye enjoyed most or all of it! I'm not trying to change your minds, I'm just saying what I heard.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Adjust your expectations is fan speak for It's not good, but just like it any way!!

We all know he can do better on SCOM... he sounds terrible, I love his voice when he chooses to use it but If this was the first time hearing these songs there's not a chance in hell I'd be a fan of this band. I'm not adjusting my expectations, I expect the musicians I pay exceptionally high ticket prices to sing to a minimum standard, and in my book that SCOM vocal is about a 4/10. I would find it hard to believe he would stand over this and say "I really like how I sound on this".

I enjoyed parts, and I'm glad some of ye enjoyed most or all of it! I'm not trying to change your minds, I'm just saying what I heard.

 

 

I wouldnt be disappointed if the band ended up dropping SCOM from future setlists.

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1 minute ago, Sydney Fan said:

I wouldnt be disappointed if the band ended up dropping SCOM from future setlists.

At this point they either get it sounding good one way or another (possibly rearrange it, or change the key)... they can't drop it because it's their biggest song... but fuck, if it was based on how well the perform it? I would drop the song in a second along with 90% of their major hits. The set would filled with deep cuts so we'd be over the moon!

SCOM could be performed acoustically for a tour, would be something different and might make the guys excited about performing it. I guess playing a song for the 10000th time might be a bit of a drag... but watching 100000 people jump and sing to it cannot not be amazing, no matter how many times you see it!

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6 minutes ago, kanecrescente said:

The mixing made Rocket Queen sound like a brilliant effort from the band

I normally hate RQ now, but somehow I enjoyed this version. Still not in love with the huge middle solo section, but I guess it is what is! guitar players love to play😴 And the drums under the slide solo... just no! different is sometimes good, but in this instance it's a swing and a miss!

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LOL he run out of gas in YCBM, i still don't understand why don't they use footage from 2016 when axl was on top form....this is hard to watch...

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That was better than the last one, Pro Shot Slither? fuck yeah, Axl's no Weiland, but he tried.

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11 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I normally hate RQ now, but somehow I enjoyed this version. Still not in love with the huge middle solo section, but I guess it is what is! guitar players love to play😴 And the drums under the slide solo... just no! different is sometimes good, but in this instance it's a swing and a miss!

I agree 100% with that, as well as Richard’s part during the Slide solo being audible for once and I’ve never heard that before. Enjoyed the cheesy porno vibe to it

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1 hour ago, slash78 said:

Regarding Axl's voice... i think not many of the harsh critics realize this man has sung for 4 years in a row some of the most dificult songs tehnic-wise to sing.We all know a GN'R concert is a long show, aprox 3 hours.And that's not all. He sung for ACDC like a MOFO !!! IMO AXL ROSE is the best rock vocalist/song writer/ lyricist and performer ever.No one can come even close.Far away is Freddy but Axl is unhuman.

I think everybody is well aware that GNR have been touring non stop:rofl-lol:

Also let's be honest, 2017-2020 his voice was shot. It was the exception when he'd come out and knock it out of the park, so don't try to frame it like "Well it was just a long tour". I totally get that there's vocal fatigue, and maybe!? they pushed it too hard in that first year doing multiple nights in a row etc. but that is not the concern of the ticket buying fan. 

Axl was a great singer, these days he's average on a good day! I don't enjoy saying that, but I also have no problem saying it because it's 100% accurate. We have acclimated to his new less good voice and learnt to accept it... but it's really not good a lot of times, so saying otherwise is not being a great fan, it's being a blind worshipper. last time I was blown away by Axl was a performance of Shadow of your love and another one of Out ta get me, I wish I could remember the shows! he sounded like vintage Axl... it just kills me that, he has that voice but rarely breaks it out.

Freddy is the king, there are also a number of other singers that kick the shite out of Axl live. Axl is hands down my favourite studio singer, but live he is very hit and miss.

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11 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Freddy is the king, there are also a number of other singers that kick the shite out of Axl live. Axl is hands down my favourite studio singer, but live he is very hit and miss.

Well, its hard to compare singers cause its all a matter of taste.

FOR ME, the best live Axl anihilates the best Freddy, the best Tyler, the best Steve Perry, etc.

But they are all great. I’ve been enjoying a lot of Matt Bellamy’s live performances, the guy is a beast.

 

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