Gunner927 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Im sure slash would be thinking about the lyrics and wondering " are the lyrics about me". Im doubtful with franks drumming abililty on this track. I'm sure Axl would deny it, but it seems fairly obvious this is 100% directed at Slash. "Thought you would be more of a man" kinda kills any chance it could be about Stephanie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASLayerAODsk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gnrfan2001 said: (Verse 1) All cautions made Every chance was given No effort spared To save what we had All in good faith I would not hesitate To extend myself And lend you a hand <<<< and lend you my hand (Chorus) But you had to play it cool and do it your way Had to be a fool and throw it all away Too hard school And you thought you were here to stay If that were true, it wouldn't matter anyway (Verse 2) As tempers fade And lies forgiven ??? <<<<<<<< No quantum rays? And break what we had <<<<<<< TO break what we had ??? <<<<<<< in it's place A storm had lifted I would've thought you could've been more of a man (Chorus) (Solo) (Bridge) (Chorus) (Outro) Too hard school And you thought you were here to stay If that were true, it wouldn't matter anyway Edited August 25, 2019 by ASLayerAODsk noticed more errors that needed correcting :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Edit: Weird are there multiple versions? Because I just heard a different one from this morning (labelled Jackie Chan) and it's... substantially better. This was originally a critical review but I actually dig this second version I heard. Still very "CD" but better than a lot of the other songs on that album. Axl's voice sounds better, too? Why was Rhiad chosen over this? Haha. Edited August 25, 2019 by Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones1225 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 There's now a better quality version similar to the 22 sec demo up on YT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, WhazUp said: As a guitar player myself, it just sounds a tad sloppy to me, like what I sound like when I haven't completely locked down a melodic idea I had in mind and am fishing for ways to make it work while I am playing - nothing personal against Robin though his work on Chinese is one of my favorite parts of that album with his lead work on TIL and the little solo on Better he does near the end To me the solo sounds like something put down on tape for a rough demo as an idea but not fully realized yet - which I assume is the case so I am not hating on it for what it is, but just that is how I hear it as a guitar player Well, I play guitar too (and I already learnt the song by ear, it's great to play), and to me Robin's solo sounds something weird that he would play. Kinda like his IRS work - the intro is mellow, the solo is weird and kinda unexpected in some way. I don't know why the break has such low lead guitars. Maybe that was something that Axl would still put some vocals over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kever20 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: If I believed what people claim about GNR on the internet, I'd still be waiting for Axl's cover of Total Eclipse of the Heart Haha. Was that the sp1at article saying it was a duet with Pink? I remember that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kever20 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, there is no dana only zool said: Might get a tomato or something thrown at me for this but a bunch of the guitar soloing reminds me of No Prayer/Fear of the Dark era Maiden guitar work. I was thinking that, or late 80s early 90s Priest. Almost like Nightcrawler in a way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBrA2168 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 What year do we think this is from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 What's the highest bitrate / biggest file size circulating of this song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: Well, I play guitar too (and I already learnt the song by ear, it's great to play), and to me Robin's solo sounds something weird that he would play. Kinda like his IRS work - the intro is mellow, the solo is weird and kinda unexpected in some way. I don't know why the break has such low lead guitars. Maybe that was something that Axl would still put some vocals over? For me the guitar work is okay up until the key change to concert F (F# in Eb standard), that solo sounds more like a placeholder solo to me in terms of it just not sounding fully developed - the rest of it overall sounds okay besides the mix like you said , I agree with the lead guitars overall on those parts definitely sound way back in the mix as does the Bucket shredding at the end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, CoBrA2168 said: What year do we think this is from? The consensus is 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMother'sDruthers Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Atlas is the big prize here. Hoping it comes out in its entirety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, YourMother'sDruthers said: Atlas is the big prize here. Hoping it comes out in its entirety. Anything else unheard would be nice. Give me something else to annoy the neighbors with other than the one song lol Edited August 25, 2019 by megaguns1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angriestwhopper Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The more I listen to hard school the better it is. I agree about the lyrics aimed at slash - it certainly sounds like it. I hope everything else gets released and the band have no choice but to write new stuff. These have been massively overhyped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Come on, it was a PM. Not everybody knows how to find these songs. As music fanatic, who has a whole basement for his passion, I would think you to be empathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: Come on, it was a PM. Not everybody knows how to find these songs. As music fanatic, who has a whole basement for his passion, I would think you to be empathetic. It's legit on the first page of this thread, and anybody who knows how to use search engines will be able to find the material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, angriestwhopper said: The more I listen to hard school the better it is. I agree about the lyrics aimed at slash - it certainly sounds like it. I hope everything else gets released and the band have no choice but to write new stuff. These have been massively overhyped 2nd paragraph, absoloutely this!!!!!!. I want new songs from scratch material. Edited August 25, 2019 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, uruguns said: What's the highest bitrate / biggest file size circulating of this song? The original file was 192 kbps (5.6 MB). Anything more or less has been manipulated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Towelie Posted August 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2019 I like it, but I must say: Shadow Of Your Love 2018 >> Hard School 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Towelie said: I like it, but I must say: Shadow Of Your Love 2018 >> Hard School Would you still have that opinion if HS was mixed properly and mastered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Arnuld said: Would you still have that opinion if HS was mixed properly and mastered? Pretty sure, yes. SOYL was vintage Appetite. Beggars belief that it wasn't on the album. Hard School is cool but only ranks as a mid-tier Chinese track, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard2k Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Terrible mix, but I really liked it. Lots of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Towelie said: Pretty sure, yes. SOYL was vintage Appetite. Beggars belief that it wasn't on the album. Hard School is cool but only ranks as a mid-tier Chinese track, imo. I liked SOYL as well. I think the guitar and drums on it were redone. HS is definitely better than scraped and Riad. I’d rank it about the same as IRS and a shade better than Shacklers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Arnuld said: I liked SOYL as well. I think the guitar and drums on it were redone. HS is definitely better than scraped and Riad. I’d rank it about the same as IRS and a shade better than Shacklers. So in terms of cd how much input did axl have with the reccrd company with what songs were to make the album and the track listing?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: So in terms of cd how much input did axl have with the reccrd company with what songs were to make the album and the track listing?. I would imagine he had full control over that. I don’t think CD had all of the best songs on it. I think it was planned as a two to three part release. Axl said as much in 2002. Apparently the second part was ready to go in 2010 and the record company did not want to release it then because CD had not done as well as they had hoped. In fact Axl was so pissed he went on Twitter and canceled the European tour scheduled for that summer and then changed his mind and claimed he was hacked. I remember I flipped out because I had a trip planned to Paris to see them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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