allwaystired Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Just now, DTJ80 said: Dunno man - I think it suggests it’s a ‘real thing’ and still happening. I hope there is an about turn on the inclusion of the surround mixes though….although I guess they could be released separately in the future. I'd say file it by the remix album, the NITL live album, etc etc. Things that were planned but just didn't happen. Either way, if 'they' (and I doubt very much it's 'they') have just rejected the mix, there's no way this thing is coming out any time soon. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzyjim Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Sweersa said: I heard to save money, they are just going to have Fernando do it in Audacity. The current holdup is he's trying to figure out how to export a sample in .mp3 to share with Melissa because the .wav is too big for the AOL servers to handle. That's stupid, everybody knows you can use Audiograbber for that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, izzyjim said: That's stupid, everybody knows you can use Audiograbber for that I forgot about that. Let's not forget about the GarageBand instrumentals Fernando is waiting on Axl vocals for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, allwaystired said: I'd say file it by the remix album, the NITL live album, etc etc. Things that were planned but just didn't happen. Either way, if 'they' (and I doubt very much it's 'they') have just rejected the mix, there's no way this thing is coming out any time soon. Certainly timeline it doesn’t seem feasible to be soon but I do think we will see it…..based on the preparation after gathering ideas on here etc it’s obviously been on the go for a while. I get it though….we have been burnt more times than is necessary….time will tell. 🤣 Edited May 20, 2022 by DTJ80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Voodoochild said: You're right. And may I add: not only WTTJ and SCOM are both available in Dolby Atmos on Apple Music, but the band also wanted to test the mix of the Illusions with that Q-Sound. And the only time I heard something with Q-Sound was when Capcom used on those Street Fighter Alpha and Marvel vs. Capom arcade machines. What’s the actual deal with Q-Sound….did it actually sound good? Actually I think I have the files on a hard drive somewhere! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Considering that they’re planning on including shows this time around, maybe there just simply wasn’t room for the 5.1 thing again? UYI is 30 songs, after all. I still hope this box set happens (regardless of what’s on it) but if it doesn’t then I’ll be fine, as long as we get more cd2 leftovers instead. Though I suppose the healthy thing to do would be to not hold my breath for either. Edited May 20, 2022 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Considering that they’re planning on including shows this time around, maybe there just simply wasn’t room for the 5.1 thing again? UYI is 30 songs, after all. I still hope this box set happens (regardless of what’s on it) but if it doesn’t then I’ll be fine, as long as we get more cd2 leftovers instead. Though I suppose the healthy thing to do would be to not hold my breath for either. It's so fucked up that the thought of a real comeback album with newly written songs by the actual band members is almost grotesque now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 The first post in that forum thread that mentioned the rumour about the Steven Wilson mix was in Dec. 2021, the day after the Slash interview, which means that the mix was already done (and probably already rejected) by the time Slash announced the release of the box set. So it's more likely that it's still happening, but without the SW surround mix. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, DTJ80 said: What’s the actual deal with Q-Sound….did it actually sound good? Actually I think I have the files on a hard drive somewhere! 🤣 It was supposed to sound more like Dolby Atmos, with a "spatial sound", but obviously not as advanced. The Qsound mixes we have (from Alan Niven? Can't remember) were identical to the stereo mix. More likely, the tape source just was a lossy transfer. To reproduce it, I guess it was required to have a digital source and the proper codec or equipment (with a DSP chip) to play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: The first post in that forum thread that mentioned the rumour about the Steven Wilson mix was in Dec. 2021, the day after the Slash interview, which means that the mix was already done (and probably already rejected) by the time Slash announced the release of the box set. So it's more likely that it's still happening, but without the SW surround mix. It’s crazy that the record company would pay possibly the best surround mixer on the planet to work on the UYI stuff….just to be rejected. 🤦♂️ He will have been paid regardless but still - why was AFD ok to have a 5.1 mix? I guess seeing as the work has been done they could revisit it at any time….at least we know it’s actually ‘done’. Slash will get asked about it at somepoint now. The better bloody not have emptied it just do they could fit in more tattoos or damned cycling shorts….😤…..🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: It was supposed to sound more like Dolby Atmos, with a "spatial sound", but obviously not as advanced. The Qsound mixes we have (from Alan Niven? Can't remember) were identical to the stereo mix. More likely, the tape source just was a lossy transfer. To reproduce it, I guess it was required to have a digital source and the proper codec or equipment (with a DSP chip) to play it. That’s what I was thinking - technology wise I wonder how it could have been played…..back in 1991 it would have been ultra niche. Therefore I’m surprised they didn’t release it as….well it would be a GNR thing to do. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: It’s crazy that the record company would pay possibly the best surround mixer on the planet to work on the UYI stuff….just to be rejected. 🤦♂️ He will have been paid regardless but still - why was AFD ok to have a 5.1 mix? I guess seeing as the work has been done they could revisit it at any time….at least we know it’s actually ‘done’. Slash will get asked about it at somepoint now. The better bloody not have emptied it just do they could fit in more tattoos or damned cycling shorts….😤…..🤣 It's possible that they just didn't like the work SW did - this band is (in)famous for not being able to work with acclaimed producers/mixers - but they told him they didn't like surround in general because they didn't want to insult him. Something similar happened with Bob Clearmountain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 9 hours ago, El Guapo said: It's so fucked up that the thought of a real comeback album with newly written songs by the actual band members is almost grotesque now. Absurd, isn't it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 On SW what’s not clear to me is if he just did a surround sound mix, or if he also did another mix that could still see a release. Yes he is fantastic at surround, but some of the stereo remixes he has done have also been excellent. Maybe this is clear but I couldn’t work this out from what I read. Either way as a huge SW and huge GnR fan I hope something comes of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Hand to God, I forgot a UYI set was even on the way. If it happens, great. If not, that's cool too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 It’s crazy that we’re lining up to buy some more over-priced merch when what most of us would prefer is a new record. I guess over-priced merch is where the money’s at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, RussTCB said: If it happens, great. If not, that's cool too. Current GNR in a nutshell 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, SAU3R said: Current GNR in a nutshell Since 2 decades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Blackstar said: It's possible that they just didn't like the work SW did - this band is (in)famous for not being able to work with acclaimed producers/mixers - but they told him they didn't like surround in general because they didn't want to insult him. Something similar happened with Bob Clearmountain. True enough. Fingers crossed some surround version appears someday…either the SW version or another. NR could sound special in 5.1 as there is so much going on musically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) On 5/20/2022 at 2:31 PM, El Guapo said: It's so fucked up that the thought of a real comeback album with newly written songs by the actual band members is almost grotesque now. 23 hours ago, gavgnr said: It’s crazy that we’re lining up to buy some more over-priced merch when what most of us would prefer is a new record. Stop whining already. AXL is in his 60's and doesn't sing well anymore. And really hasn't for many years. Even when he still could, it wasn't consistently good. IMO AXL is and has been keenly aware of this which is why new music has never really materialized other than with vocals he performed decades ago. Furthermore, most of you incessantly whining about new music would be the 1st to criticize if they ever released new music and it isn't any good. Have you heard AXL sing lately? It ain't good enough. So give it a rest. Edited May 22, 2022 by thunderram 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, thunderram said: Stop whining already. AXL is in his 60's and doesn't sing well anymore. And really hasn't for many years. Even when he still could, it wasn't consistently good. IMO AXL is and has been keenly aware of this which is why new music has never really materialized other than with vocals he performed decades ago. Furthermore, most of you incessantly whining about new music would be the 1st to criticize if they ever released new music and it isn't any good. Have you heard AXL sing lately? It ain't good enough. So give it a rest. I think it's fair criticism, not whining. I'm of the opinion that in a studio environment, on the condition Axl was interested, current Gn'R could have made a totally new album and some fans want that. They don't want 20 year old rerecorded Chinese era material. Personally, I'm very interested in anything even kinda new released, but it's a reasonable preference. also, my guess is the lack of new Gn'R releases has nothing to do with Axl's vocal ability. It's not like he even needs a very good reason to not release music. Edited May 22, 2022 by Rovim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, thunderram said: Furthermore, most of you incessantly whining about new music would be the 1st to criticize if they ever released new music and it isn't any good. Sorry pal you’re wrong there. I love the singles released last year and just would like more of the same. 2016 was six years ago and two songs in that time period is pretty piss poor by any band’s standard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) Just now, thunderram said: Stop whining already. AXL is in his 60's and doesn't sing well anymore. And really hasn't for many years. Even when he still could, it wasn't consistently good. IMO AXL is and has been keenly aware of this which is why new music has never really materialized other than with vocals he performed decades ago. Furthermore, most of you incessantly whining about new music would be the 1st to criticize if they ever released new music and it isn't any good. Have you heard AXL sing lately? It ain't good enough. So give it a rest. So, we shouldn't want new music in case we don't like it? Great logic! Edited May 22, 2022 by allwaystired 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Free Bird Posted May 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, thunderram said: Stop whining already. AXL is in his 60's and doesn't sing well anymore. And really hasn't for many years. Even when he still could, it wasn't consistently good. IMO AXL is and has been keenly aware of this which is why new music has never really materialized other than with vocals he performed decades ago. Furthermore, most of you incessantly whining about new music would be the 1st to criticize if they ever released new music and it isn't any good. Have you heard AXL sing lately? It ain't good enough. So give it a rest. Stop whining. How odd. People on a rock n roll band's forum are asking for new music. Edited May 22, 2022 by Free Bird 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 9 hours ago, thunderram said: Stop whining already. AXL is in his 60's and doesn't sing well anymore. And really hasn't for many years. Even when he still could, it wasn't consistently good. IMO AXL is and has been keenly aware of this which is why new music has never really materialized other than with vocals he performed decades ago. Furthermore, most of you incessantly whining about new music would be the 1st to criticize if they ever released new music and it isn't any good. Have you heard AXL sing lately? It ain't good enough. So give it a rest. Why don't you stop whining about other people whining? Axl's vocals sound awesome on the Looney Tunes studio track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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