EvanG Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Fucking hell, stop typing ''Putler'' already! I think Russia will step back if Ukraine agrees not to join NATO in the future, but that's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, jamillos said: I've only heard good stuff about it but haven't seen it yet. Might be a good idea now, ha. It's a really good show. One of the best in the last couple of years. Edit: Just to add there's also one on Netflix called Chernobyl 1986. Similar story told from a different perspective. Not as good as the HBO series but still a decent watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 why are you getting so triggered by that? a maniacal dictator who ruined his own nation, wages ruthless war with his neighbours and threatens to destroy the whole world with nukes - that is exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 You're ignorant. Seriously, pick up a history book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 ignorant in what? can you elaborate more on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 It's already been explained in this thread, so read back, no point in repeating. But you failed to understand it the first time, so I doubt you're going to understand it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 oh, and still some don't get it, even after explanation. that's indeed pretty unfortunate, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 yes, totally not Putler. they started the war to "start new world order", "solve the ukrainian question", etc. https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-publication-ria-novosti-which-was-to-be-published-after-the-occupation-of-ukraine/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html totally not a 1:1 carbon copy of german nazi propaganda. only this time, everyone else is a fascist and nazi, of fourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, zombux said: yes, totally not Putler. they started the war to "start new world order", "solve the ukrainian question", etc. https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-publication-ria-novosti-which-was-to-be-published-after-the-occupation-of-ukraine/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html totally not a 1:1 carbon copy of german nazi propaganda. only this time, everyone else is a fascist and nazi, of fourse. That's a carbon copy of any war propaganda. Do you remember USA propaganda over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Even now Ukrainian government officials are posting videos from video games as examples of Russian aggression I'm not defending Russia, they're at fault here. What I'm trying to say, calm down and don't get hyped up about everything you read 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Snake Island soldiers found to be alive after all https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60554959 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, alfierose said: Snake Island soldiers found to be alive after all https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60554959 Delighted to hear that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Regarding comparing Putin to Hitler: There are obviously some similarities (strong man running a country, invading another European country to restore former glory, possibilities of escalation) and then there is lots that is different (geopolitical climate, ideologies). In the context of warning about a situation that could escalate (similar to the situation when Nazi Germany invaded Poland which eventually resulted in a world wear), I suppose it is a fair comparison as long that is how far the comparison is drawn and as long as people don't think anyone making that comparison is trying to make it sound like they are identical. 8 minutes ago, alfierose said: Snake Island soldiers found to be alive after all https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60554959 Hah! I always assumed they would be alive! I found it a bit weird to think that war ship would bother to blow that tiny island to smithereens. There is a lot of propaganda on both sides now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 21 hours ago, Blackstar said: In depth background analysis, absolutely worth watching. Although he was wrong about the scale of a potential invasion (the interview was conducted on Feb. 15), he seems to be spot on about what Putin wants to accomplish as well as about NATO. He was already saying it in 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4 He said last week that Russia wouldn’t invade. so… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Here some bizarre thing: an ice-cream parlour in my country will stop of sold an ice-cream of "Russian cream".. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Russia, bith national team and clubs, suspended from UEFA and FIFA competitions, also basketball clubs suspended... Shell and BP leaving from Gazprom. Russia is on its way to be the most isolated country in history. Hope its people find strenght and capability to kick him out of position and make changes in way Russia is run. Because, "Putin" after Putin is not a solutuion... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, downzy said: He said last week that Russia wouldn’t invade. so… Yes, it's the same interview I posted and I mentioned it. He thought that a full scale invasion wasn't very likely and that if there was an invasion, it would be limited to Donbass/Eastern Ukraine. That doesn't mean his overall analysis is wrong, though. Edited February 28, 2022 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 22 hours ago, -Jaro- said: You cannot just bomb capital of state that owns the most nukes in the world... Chance to minimase situation like this was 15yrs ago when Russia was poor giant , but world waches elsevere... Now, we can hope that wise men surrounding Putin grow a pair and "remove" him... Last night, first refugees came to Croatia, and today, first Croatian volunteers reached Ukraine... Doesn't the US have the most nukes in the world? Anyway, either way you look at it, this is an act of war and all the support of countries isn't help Ukraine save their country nor their people. It's just not right. The news is saying now Putin's cabinet isn't on board with him, but they are too afraid to do something. Please, Putin planned well ahead for this. He has all his assests hidden and the only thing that will happen is the Russian people will suffer by it. I will never understand what is happening? Years ago countries declared war with the drop of a hat. I know we all have nuclear weapons and the more evil men continue to fuck with innocents one day someone will start pressing those buttons. This world is getting worse and worse so maybe pressing a button and ending it all is the right thing to do. Give China a while and see them invade Taiwan and North Korea is just waiting to invade South Korea too. The world is made of up many evil people and nothing at this rate will stop them. I truly believe this and I'm scared for my child growing up in this fucked up world. Yeah, Gov. Abbot told stores to take Russian vodka off their shelves. I doubt any Texans will care. They mostly drink beer. yeah, this will hurt Putin so much. What a joke! Putin planned for anything the world is throwing at him. All this is doing is fucking up the Russians more while Putin is allright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Well, he isn't Superman so if he was alone nothing of this could be possible. In the moment he will not have full (or major) support within his cabinet he will be dead man walking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The world was basically given a heads-up a week or two in-advance of the occupation. Why was nothing done to prevent this? I wonder how much the Bidens and Clintons are set to make after all said and done.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Coma16 said: The world was basically given a heads-up a week or two in-advance of the occupation. Why was nothing done to prevent this? I wonder how much the Bidens and Clintons are set to make after all said and done.... And what exactly should have been done?? It's nothing more than extortion anyway, "Do what I want or I will invade your country, because I'm stronger than you." Edited February 28, 2022 by PatrickS77 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 56 minutes ago, Coma16 said: The world was basically given a heads-up a week or two in-advance of the occupation. Why was nothing done to prevent this? I wonder how much the Bidens and Clintons are set to make after all said and done.... Russia was given every opportunity to back down and they consistently chose to escalate. The West is not to blame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic_GnR_Fan Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 3:58 PM, downzy said: Forget SWIFT expulsion, shit just get real… As a social conservative this almost tips me over to the Russian side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zombux Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 9 hours ago, PatrickS77 said: And what exactly should have been done?? It's nothing more than extortion anyway, "Do what I want or I will invade your country, because I'm stronger than you." in this case, it's more like "don't protect yourself against our invasion or I will invade you!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 For those who say Putin is alone: Please watch till the end... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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