Popular Post WhazUp Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 I was trying to think of things that maybe are not discussed much, or just really fresh things to talk about during this period of GNR downtime and I was thinking about how GNR have some really well produced albums sonically. One thing that I especially love are the subtle things that I consciously may not have realized at first - for example on "Anything Goes" you have two separately tracked guitar solos, however unlike Nightrain with Izzy and Slash passing the solos to one another, you have Slash essentially guitar-dueling with himself - one talk-box guitar, and the other normal The acoustic guitars on the chorus to "Think About You" are a really nice decision as well and it really adds to the overall vibe of the melody in that section 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, WhazUp said: I was trying to think of things that maybe are not discussed much, or just really fresh things to talk about during this period of GNR downtime and I was thinking about how GNR have some really well produced albums sonically. One thing that I especially love are the subtle things that I consciously may not have realized at first - for example on "Anything Goes" you have two separately tracked guitar solos, however unlike Nightrain with Izzy and Slash passing the solos to one another, you have Slash essentially guitar-dueling with himself - one talk-box guitar, and the other normal The acoustic guitars on the chorus to "Think About You" are a really nice decision as well and it really adds to the overall vibe of the melody in that section Great topic! The first thing that flew into my head was the acoustic on Think About You. One thing I love is the whistling behind "truth is the truth hurts..." in Sorry. Not the most groundbreaking additon but it kind gives me that "old west stand off" feel when I hear it. Puts more intensity on that line for me. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb33 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I don't know if these can be considered effects or mixing decisions, but I always liked the intros of Pretty Tied Up and The Garden, and the effect on Axl's voice on Estranged when he starts singing "I don't know how you're s'posed to find me lately...". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The deep voice at the beginning of Paradise City and the acoustic guitar in Think About You are some of the first ones that come to mind. There's not much to praise about Scraped but the 2nd/alternate chorus is cool. (I'd give anything to know, how you live with yourself...) Not a mixing thing, but "Yep, we're fucked" in Since I Don't Have You. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Twinaleblood Posted January 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Oh, so many. I'll go with the clean guitars in the Think About You chorus too and a kinda sorta unpopular choice: the half a second of silence with the snare drum hit kickstarting the final chorus in Hardskool after the break. Also, I always found the kazoo at the end of Human Being hilarious in a nice way. And a mention for the sort of flanger effect on Izzy's voice in Double Talkin' Jive. EDIT: forgot to mention the snare drum hits in the Shackler's Revenge intro. They sound like gunshots and I always wanted to think it's been done on purpose, as a subtle node to the theme of the lyrics. Edited January 22, 2022 by Twinaleblood 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The 'Oooooo' on Chinese Democracy (song) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanSkies Dummy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Killswitch on Shackler's Revenge and the drumming by Freese on Zodiac. Sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2sublime Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Being mind blown at the different version of KOHD on Days of Thunder with the extra Axl vocals I never knew was different than the UYI one until a couple years ago. Also I love their use of codas/ outros like the end of Rocket Queen, Locomotive, and DTJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Always loved the short piano or keyboard part at the very end of Breakdown, after Axl says "Didya hear that?" Also, while I'm not always a fan of synthesizers, love the epic synth part in the Paradise City intro. Edited January 22, 2022 by axlsalinger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Really interesting thread. Absolutely shocked how many times Think About You has been mentioned. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agustingloger Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The sound of Slash n Izzy's guitars on Appetite and everytime Axl goes from low voice to full rasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) The girl saying "No I Won't" at the start of The Garden. Ominous song. Edited January 22, 2022 by StrangerInThisTown 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Punk Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Great topic! Actually for me, in Think About You alongside the acoustic arpegiated pattern in the chorus, I always loved how the chord sequence at the end perfectly sets up the right tonality for the beginning of sweet child. Great musical/dynamic moment! Edited January 22, 2022 by Shaolin Punk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, Shaolin Punk said: Great topic! Actually for me, in Think About You alongside the acoustic arpegiated pattern in the chorus, I always loved how the chord sequence at the end perfectly sets up the right tonality for the beginning of sweet child. Great musical/dynamic moment! Yeah that is great for sure! It is a perfect one-two punch side by side, ending TAY on that minor chord vibe going into Sweet Child 4 hours ago, martinb33 said: I don't know if these can be considered effects or mixing decisions, but I always liked the intros of Pretty Tied Up and The Garden, and the effect on Axl's voice on Estranged when he starts singing "I don't know how you're s'posed to find me lately...". I am a sucker for that type of vocal effect too ha that sort of "phone call quality" sound right? I love how it transitions smoothy back to normal as well, it was a really cool effect 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The pads/ambient noises during the quiet section of Coma Axl vocalizing in a very low register during the harmonica section of Bad Obsession "It was a long time" underneath the chorus in TWAT During the verses of CD there are these bells playing an ascending pattern. Listen closely, it's buried in the mix The FX/noises under the verse/chorus in Garden of Eden Pretty much the entirety of Prostitute. I love pianos/synthesizers and Prostitute has a lot of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 There’s this one note change that slash does at the end of November rain in the second part after the piano restarts. It’s at 7:40 on the CD. It’s so awesome but I’ve never ever seen him do it live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) The entire mixing of The Garden. Mainly the Slash's slide in the chorus coupled with reverby Axls "ahhs". And later on after Alice Coopers 2nd verse when Slashs 7/8 guitar overdubs come in are nicely mixed, with reverby Axls "bye bye" screech. I also like how how Duffs bass is mixed on UYI specifically. Very audible but not overbearing, and very low end heavy Edited January 22, 2022 by Mendez 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Maybe a controversial choice, I know some people think it doesn't fit at all, but I really like the way the "yeaaaaaaaaah baby" from the normal version fades in over the end of the second verse in the alternate version of Don't Cry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doakes Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 This thread makes me want to go back and listen to old catalog again. I don't think I've ever noticed the acoustic guitars in Think About You. ... All the mixing, recording of the drums and cymbals on Appetite-- They don't just sound like drums being banged and crashed-- They're very instrumental and melodic in their own right, if that makes any sense. Duffs bass tone in general is so distinctive-- From It's So Easy to Hard Skool. The moaning dolphin guitars in Estranged that lull you in before Slash's solo. Coma's full of them.. "Zap the son of a bitch again" The tin can left-to-right phase in If The World-- Then those drums hit with full force in stereo. The coda in Oklahoma-- Those four little escalating notes in the background are so beautiful. Old Silkworms intro/ Absurd "just another life slips away" The George Harrison-esque slide guitars with the ambient "Hey heyys" in Hard Skool. Reminds me of Free as a Bird. Honorable mention: Yeah, we're fucked 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StrangerInThisTown Posted January 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mendez said: The entire mixing of The Garden. Mainly the Slash's slide in the chorus coupled with reverby Axls "ahhs". And later on after Alice Coopers 2nd verse when Slashs 7/8 guitar overdubs come in are nicely mixed, with reverby Axls "bye bye" screech. The Garden is so underrated. The amount of artistry on such a deep track on the album is just purely amazing, the lyrics are not just words but art, you could tell someone really spent their time writing them, haunting and they also fit the music perfectly. If that wasn't already enough, it also has one of Slashs best solos to boot. Edited January 22, 2022 by StrangerInThisTown 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Great thread. Several points have already been mentioned. - The acoustic guitars in Think about You are one of the best things about the song, so definitely yes. - That weird howling behind the chorus in Shadow of Your Love. - Izzy’s voice distortion in Double Talkin’ Jive. There are many cool things about the studio version in general. - The vocal multiplicity at the beginning of Paradise City. Pure bliss. Plus the first guitar tones and... in fact, the whole beginning. The whole fucking song. - The cracking before Axl starts wailing in Dead Horse – the short transition between the acoustic intro and the chorus. The drums! - The tinkling bells in Chinese Democracy verses, which weren’t present in the first leaked versions. I loved that instantly. - The choruses in There Was a Time (yeah, there was a time, didn't wanna know it all). - Coma - the guitar work in the tranquillity part, plus all the effects later in the song. - The way the crowd was integrated in Get in the Ring, plus the momentum the song is gaining with the soloing towards the end. Awesome piece of gooseflesh music, back then and still. - The stuff Axl does with his voice in the fast passages of Breakdown. Plus the banjo. Another masterpiece. - Izzy’s sitar in Pretty Tied Up and the whole beginning. - The synth (?) effects behind the soloing at the end of Prostitute, which are more prominent in the Village sessions. - The beginning of Oh My God, in its entirety. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Bucket's guitar work at the end of the chorus to Better transitioning into the next verse along with Pitman's synth on the verses. Finck's playing along with Axl's vocal on the second verse of There Was A Time along with the acoustic guitars during the solo, but the whole album is a treasure trove of hidden gems along with featuring some of the greatest work Axl Rose has ever recorded to my ears. The really subtle 'Too Hard Skool" heard buried underneath the lead vocal on the outro of Hard Skool. The mix of Shadow of Your Love is tremendous. Slash sounds incredible on it and I'd have loved for Hard Skool to have similar treatment. Axl's distorted vocals on Oh My God, particularly the outro. The middle section of Coma. Need I say more? What a masterpiece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Dean said: The really subtle 'Too Hard Skool" heard buried underneath the lead vocal on the outro of Hard Skool. I wish this was louder/clearer like it is live 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 hours ago, doakes said: Duffs bass tone in general is so distinctive-- From It's So Easy to Hard Skool. Easily the best thing about the released version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishgunnerII Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The middle section of coma with the people talking I love which is weird because I hate the taking on KOHD because it sounds really stupid and out of place. The single drum strike at the end of coma which when I first heard it caught me off guard a bit. I just love the entire acoustic version of you’re crazy. I’m sure I’ve heard the acoustic guitar on think about you but when people were saying it, I drew a blank. 7 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Easily the best thing about the released version. Well you instantly know it’s duff which is a good sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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